I continue my conversation on immigration with my dad. We talk about Renee Good and Alex Pretti’s deaths, immigration enforcement tactics, immigration messaging and much more.

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Sources:

Provided by Dad:

• Minneapolis roadblocks created as safety measure against ICE, residents say. (2026). WCCO – CBS Minnesota YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpxvfub-gHA. Accessed Feb. 8, 2026.
• California: First state to provide health care for undocumented immigrants. (2022). ABC 10 YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPMsvYbcUKI. Accessed Feb. 23, 2026.
• Democrats say health plans would cover undocumented immigrants. (2019). Bloomberg News YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSmoNOZJ9Y. Accessed Feb. 23, 2026.

Provided by Mackenzie:

• Feuer, A., Thrush, G. (2026). F.B.I. agent who tried to investigate ICE officer in shooting resigns. The New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/politics/fbi-agent-ice-shooting-renee-good.html. Accessed Feb. 8, 2026.
• Garrett, L. (2026) Senate Democrats and Republicans call for investigation into killing of Alex Pretti. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2026/01/25/g-s1-107288/senate-investigation-alex-pretti-killing. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Bogel-Burroughs, N. (2026). Video show Alex Pretti in confrontation with agents 11 days before his death. The New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/28/us/alex-pretti-kicking-ice-vehicle-video.html. Accessed Feb 22, 2026.
• Analyzing the Minneapolis shooting frame by frame. (2026). BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cg4e0r1el5yo. Accessed Feb. 22, 2206.
• Patel, F., Ruppert, M. (2025). ICE wants to go after dissenters as well as immigrants. The Brennan Center. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/ice-wants-go-after-dissenters-well-immigrants. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Luna, J. (2026). Video shows Bovino giving orders to federal agents in Los Angeles. The New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010676901/la-immigration-raids-greg-bovino.html. Accessed January 29, 2026. 
• Inskeep, S. (2026). Homeland security expert talks about ICE’s truncated training after hiring blitz. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5671120/homeland-security-expert-talks-about-ices-truncated-training-after-hiring-blitz. Accessed Feb 22, 2026.
• Minnesota Republicans reportedly helped YouTuber Nick Shirley with fraud investigation. (2025). Fox 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOK4aAThcI. Accessed Jan. 2, 2026. 
• Wight, C. (2026). Day cares featured in Nick Shirley video sue Minnesota for throwing them “under the bus” to appease federal government. CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/somali-day-care-fraud-lawsuit-minnesota-nick-shirley/. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Graham, R. (2026). The influencer who spurred the federal crackdown on Minneapolis. The New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/03/us/nick-shirley-san-diego.html. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Waldman, M. (2026). Bondi links Minneapolis violence to voter data. The Brennan Center. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/bondi-links-minneapolis-violence-voter-data. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Read Bondi’s letter to Minnesota’s Governor. (2026). The New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/24/us/pam-bondi-walz-doc.html. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Kaplan, J., Walsh, J. (2026). Everything we know about Minnesota’s massive fraud schemes. CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-fraud-schemes-what-we-know/. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Edwards, C. (2026). Minnesota fraud update. CATO Institute. https://www.cato.org/blog/minnesota-fraud-update. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Johnson, K. (2025). Deportation tactics from 4 US presidents have done little to reduce the undocumented immigration population. The Conversation. https://theconversation.com/deportation-tactics-from-4-us-presidents-have-done-little-to-reduce-the-undocumented-immigrant-population-261640#:~:text=The%20birthright%20executive%20order%20has,to%20remain%20in%20the%20millions.. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Twin Cities police chiefs: Officers report being targeted while off duty by ICE agents. (2026). KARE 11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRURdXNW3A4&t=61s. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Martinez-Ochoa, K., O’Connor, E., Berry, P. (2025/2026). Tracker of Justice Department requests for voter information. Brennan Center. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/tracker-justice-department-requests-voter-information. Accessed February 6, 2026.
• Fowler, S., Joffe-Block J. (2026). The Trump administration admits even more ways DOGE accessed sensitive personal data. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2026/01/23/nx-s1-5684185/doge-data-social-security-privacy. Accessed February 5, 2026. 
• Reichlin-Melnick, A. (2024). Unpacking myths about noncitizen voting – How Heritage Foundation’s own data proves it’s not a problem. American Immigration Council. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/myths-about-noncitizen-voting-heritage-foundation-data/. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Bier, D. J., Howard, M., Salazar, J. (2026). Immigrants’ recent effects on government budgets: 1994-2023. CATO Institute. https://www.cato.org/white-paper/immigrants-recent-effects-government-budgets-1994-2023. Accessed Feb. 7, 2026.
• Gilder, L., Cheetham, J., Sembhi, A. (2025). Are Democrats really pushing for free healthcare for undocumented migrants? BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vzyl5x15ro. Accessed Feb. 8, 2026.
• Martin, M., Gringlas, S. (2025). A look at the political fallout from the immigration raid at a Georgia Hyundai plant. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/12/nx-s1-5535657/a-look-at-the-political-fallout-from-the-immigration-raid-at-a-georgia-hyundai-plant. Accessed Feb. 21, 2026.
• Mann, B. (2026). Italian officials voice outrage at the presence of US ICE agents at 2026 Olympics. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2026/01/27/nx-s1-5690100/winter-olympics-ice-agents-milan-italy. Accessed Feb. 22, 2026.
• Medi-Cal immigrant eligibility FAQs. (n.d). Department of Health Care Services California. https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/keep-your-Medi-Cal/Pages/Medi-Cal-Immigrant-Eligibility-FAQs.aspx. Accessed Feb. 23, 2026.